The restrictions allow food, medicine, and vital supplies to come through, but Saddam keeps them from the people to fuel his war machine and keep them dependent on his government. It's an old trick. The Soviets, the Chinese, the Koreans, they all use this method to control their population. Also, if I understood you correctly, you said that was one of the reasons Osama launched his Jihad against the United States, but you said in your last post that Osama does not like Saddam and has no ties with him. If this were so, why would he care about the embargo? from Pharaoh [email] [homepage] 11:56 pm - Wednesday,February 19, 2003

yes it si fun :) too bad the gb doesnt allow for paragraph spaces thats why tis so damn hard to read one quick point and the only one ifhave time to amke right now more people ahve died in iraq becuase of the trade rstrictions that keep them from getting medecine, sewage chemicals, etc.. then anything its one of the reasons osama launched his jihad agaisnt the us not that saddam is a great guy or anythign from cody [email] [homepage] 8:18 pm - Wednesday,February 19, 2003

You have to understand the big picture here. The whole point is to remove Saddam from power and it is truly sad that we have to use inspectors to do so. It's long overdue and there are many other reasons to remove him. I can't wait until some obscure country gets nukes from someone because we didn't stop Iraq and blows up their neighboring country. Oh haha, then we're going to be blamed for not preventing it. It'll probably be Israel getting the short end of the Nuke too and then the crying, oh it will soon begin. There is no reason for a country like Korea to use a nuclear power plant, their powergrid can't even support one and they used them in the past for literally no reason. And even still, admitting to develope weapons after agreeing not to, in my opinion there's defintely a plan to distract the US from the current situations in the middle east and I'm glad it really didn't work. But the bottom line is, we are not bullying Iraq, we are trying to prevent them from doing something like supplying terrorists with weapons since they obviously have the ability to smuggle them in, and use them here. If they do, you can say goodbye to me because I live in NJ, just 15 minutes from NY by water, because that city will be a prime target. In this situation, apparently Saddam = Peace, so give Peace a chance, and let him be responsible for your death. You truly have no concept of the potential of things to come, I'm not being paranoid, because I am confident we will finish our current task, but after that, I don't know what we'll do. I don't care about finding Bin Laden, and it's impossible to completely eliminate terrorists/ism, but it is possible to limit their capability. Whether you want to believe it or not, Iraq is willing to help them in anyway possible, but not really Iraq as a nation, just Saddam and his top officers because I don't think Iraq would be all that upset if their dictator was no longer around. Yay! No more Posion Gas of Fortune, or Whose Execution is it Anyway? I just don't understand why anyone who back the position of "We shouldn't manually disarm Iraq" That is completely illogical, and why we're looked upon as the bad guys even by people in our own nation. At least it's somewhat comforting to know at least a good portion of the nation supports this somewhat. We would be doing the World a favor by paving the way to freedom in the middle east. Literally. from Matt [email] [homepage] 1:39 am - Wednesday,February 19, 2003

1960's Hippie BS was started by communist infiltrators in this country. 40 years of constant attack on American culture , the takeover of the media and public schools, and almost all college campuses has resulted in all of this crap. And don't deny for a second that these protests aren't being organized by those same people. All of them are commie pinkos bent on destroying America, and Western Culture in general. Why do you think they are holding signs that say things like "Bomb Bush, not Iraq" or "No War, Unless Against America" And to say might NEVER makes right, bullshit, that's grim primordial law. The strong have ever ruled the weak. Sometimes it's wrong, sometimes it's right. So now I'll do that gay point by point argument that everybody is so fond of. I only wish this guestbook allowed more freedom in organizing ideas so it would be easier to read. "they can find nothing condeming, maybe because theres nothign there" You forget the inspectors were NOT sent there to find a "smoking gun" as you liberals are so fond of saying. Over 12 years the US intelligence and UN inspectors cataloged hundreds and hundreds of pages of weapons we know he developed. The wording of the latest resolution says Saddam has to prove he has destroyed those weapons. He has not done so. He has not accounted for most of the weapons we know he possesses. Just because the inspectors haven't found anything yet doesn't mean they're not there. Remember, they have not been in the country since 1998, that gave Saddam plenty of time to hide them. Iraq is a large country. Also, to even suggest a violent psycho like him would actually do what the "international community" tells him is pure folly. Now, that said, let me stress the fact that I do not recognize the authority of the UN, I despise them and don't give a shit about their resolutions. The UN is another name for New World Order. I also don't care about him attacking his neighbors either. My fear is that he will give his weapons to terrorists. You can put a nuclear bomb in a suitcase, and chem and bio weapons can fit in spray cans. Which leads me to your next statement: "no actual evidence of this, osama is anti-saddam last time i heard" Okay, what you fail to realize is Bin Laden's terrorist network is only one of several. There's also Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc, which are known to be friendly to Iraq. Also, our intelligence knows of several meetings, between top Al Qaeda officers and Iraqi government officials. And of course their's that latest audio tape in which Bin Laden himself tells his Iraqi "brothers" to stand strong. People who hate each other can cooperate to defeat a common foe. "were jsut attacking because the president feels like it" Oh please, where were you people when Clinton bombed Kosovo, or sent cruise missiles into Afghanistan and the Sudan to deflect attention from the Lewinsky scandal? I'm not a fan of Bush either, he's not conservative enough for me, but let's not grasp at straws here. "it's what made us the greatest country in the world. - only in our own eyes" As I recall, was it not America who, for 200 years, allowed people from other oppressive nations to come and build a better life for themselves? Was it not America who came to the rescue in two World Wars? Last time I checked there are still graves of our soldiers in France, even though the French choose to forget that little detail. Was it not America who brought down the Soviet Union? Is it not America that gives more foreign aid than all the rest of the western nations combined? And do not American citizens enjoy more freedoms than any population in the world, (even though they're being taken away daily) Yes, despite what Susan Surandon or your marxist professors say, we are by far the greatest nation in the world. "you disagree with what i think so by your own argument im allowed to kill you" Seka used this same argument against me once. I didn't say, "We have the right to annihilate every nation that disagrees with us, I said we can push around other people who are trying to KILL us, who have already KILLED us, and who want to continue KILLING us. Apparently you are the one who doesn't know how the world works, it's kill or be killed sometimes, face it. "yes lets drown the murders in the lakes of the blood of the innocent civilians who are unfortunate enough to live near them" Civilians always die in wars, it's an unfortunate reality. Last time I checked our own civilians died on Sept 11, and are still being targeted today. Also, in response to your smart bomb remark, what other country in the last 50 years has put as much effort into minimalizing civilian casualties than the United States? The very purpose of "smart bombs" is to minimize civilian losses. Also, Saddam kils more of his own civilians every year than will be killed by US forces, so I wouldn't worry about it. Would you rather us carpet bomb instead? "their foreign so they dont count" When compared to Americans, no they don't. It's natural for one to consider his own kind more important than others, stop being ashamed of it. Do you think the Iraqis care about people in other countries, I doubt it. "were america so we just do what we like" Yup. "might never makes right" As I said, the strong rule the weak. Are you suggesting might is always wrong? That's even more absurd. We were mightier than Nazi Germany, did that make us wrong? "blind patriotism is far more sickening then any "60's hippie BS" Okay, number one, I'm not a blind patriot, I distrust my government and often speak in opposition to what they do or propose. I think that is healthy and as an American I have the liberty, and the responsibility to question things I don't agree with. And hippie 60's bullshit is the product of Marxist brainwashing. Would you rather have a patriotic war-like 1940's generation running the country, or 1960's liberals, with their failed social programs, politically correct propaganda, rewritten history, and total lack of regard to American culture, tradition, or the constitution? Oh wait a minute, they already are running the country. I'll pick the patriotic generation thank you very much. But anyway, thank you for debating with me, it's good we brought back some entertainment to Seka's guestbook. from Pharaoh [email] [homepage] 1:16 am - Wednesday,February 19, 2003

wow, i was exaggerating my stance a bit but seriusly, people are protesting for a reason, we have no real reason to invade right now so now to pick apart your arguments, playing logic games is fun :) Why don't you go call Saddam Hussein and talk to him? It's amazing. I didn't realize all we had to do was call that reasonable, cooperative and logical man Saddam and ask him to lay down his arms. - we did that, the inspectors are there, try as they might, and they are trying, they can find nothing condeming, maybe because theres nothign there. saddam is cooperating, hes not throwing inspecotrs out, hes allowing us to monitor EVERYTHING so far we have picked up any patterns of semis fleeing ploaces jsut before the inspectors arrive, theyve found some old empty warheads with residue of the chemicals WE gave them and antiquated rockets that couldnt really deliver a payload if they had one to deliver in the first place And of course he would agree to do that. Because he wants peace doesn't he? - he may not like peace, but hes not all that eager to throw himself into a losing battle That peaceloving Iraqi regime that allies itself with terrorists, - no actual evidence of this, osama is anti-saddam last time i heard sends checks to the families of palestinian suicide bombers -there relatives sacrificed themselves for a cause they believed in, and it is someone who lsot a family member, saddam isnt sending out the bombers, but hes supporting the side he believes is right gases its own people, and invades its neighbors. -old history, he knows if he does it again we kick his ass, all were doing is provoking him Let's just talk to them and this will all be resolved. Look. This 1960's anti-war bullshit is sickening to me. Talk means NOTHING unless it is backed up by force. - we have nothign to back up, we have nothing to force them to do, if we found weapons i could understand invading to disarm, as it is there is no reason, i fully uspport a just war, but there is no justification This is America. Let the French appease and kiss ass. Americans fight. We have always defended our interests with force, - we arent defending anythign in this "war", its not even a war, its an attack on a country that has done nothing because of the threat of attack, now were jsut attacking because the president feels like it it's what made us the greatest country in the world. - only in our own eyes It's our right to defend ourselves and push around those who want to see us dead. -ah yes, only america can attack other countries, only we ahve interests that count, first point is true, but theres nothign to defend against, second point is just absurd, he doesnt lik eus so we can attack him the world doesnt work that way you disagree with what i think so by your own argument im allowed to kill you :) Stop caring so much about foreign scum who are trying to kill us. - right all those innocent people in the country who are jsut trying to survive, and if history is any indicator will get bombed to oblivion by "smart bombs", they all want to kill us but who cares theyre all foreigners right? They're the murderers. Let them all drown in lakes of blood. -yes lets drown the murders in the lakes of the blood of the innocent civilians who are unfortunate enough to live near them, thats more then fair after all their foreign so they dont count and were america so we just do what we like, and its ok might never makes right, and blind patriotism is far more sickening then any "60's hippie BS" could ever be from cody [email] [homepage] 7:29 pm - Tuesday,February 18, 2003

Why don't you go call Saddam Hussein and talk to him? It's amazing. I didn't realize all we had to do was call that reasonable, cooperative and logical man Saddam and ask him to lay down his arms. And of course he would agree to do that. Because he wants peace doesn't he? That peaceloving Iraqi regime that allies itself with terrorists, sends checks to the families of palestinian suicide bombers, gases its own people, and invades its neighbors. Let's just talk to them and this will all be resolved. Look. This 1960's anti-war bullshit is sickening to me. Talk means NOTHING unless it is backed up by force. This is America. Let the French appease and kiss ass. Americans fight. We have always defended our interests with force, it's what made us the greatest country in the world. It's our right to defend ourselves and push around those who want to see us dead. Stop caring so much about foreign scum who are trying to kill us. They're the murderers. Let them all drown in lakes of blood. from Pharaoh [email] [homepage] 6:32 pm - Monday,February 17, 2003

the murderers are the stupid leaders who cant figure outhow to talk out a damn solution and instead go, "well just have to declare war, i dont feel like calling saddam (france, jimmy, whoever the target is) from deagol [email] [homepage] 5:04 pm - Saturday,February 15, 2003

Thanks for the quote. I have posted everyone's quotes in my diary. The URL is http://heavenly0ne.diaryland.com/qomp. Come on by and see what your fellow quoters had to give. from heavenly0ne [email] [homepage] 3:48 am - Sunday,February 9, 2003

Even though I'm short, I'll still kick your ass! from Napoleon [email] [homepage] 8:03 pm - Thursday,January 30, 2003

you've lost that loving feeling. why won't u update? I miss my updates... who's gonna talk about maxy and rice patty steve if you don't update? from id like to kill napoleon [email] [homepage] 8:35 pm - Wednesday,January 29, 2003

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